Preface


First it is important to note that i don't plan to just throw everything away and discontinue my work here at the drop of a hat. Rather, I would like to share this to see if maybe anyone has some thoughts that may help, and frankly, just to be transparent/get it off my chest.

Me & the Adopt Community

I have been around this community and doing adoptables for a long time, since around 2017 with Gleamstic/Nektanine as my first attempts on CS, with a discord or dA group respectively. I grew disillusioned with the community for years because I don't agree with many practices within it, but eventually decided I was not going to let that take away my personal fun of creating species. This saw the creation of Lopilu in late 2021 (I think). I wanted to make something that fixed the issues I had with my previous attempts, and try something new. They had a toyhou.se world, and were posted on my discord as well. Eventually, I randomly decided to build a website for my stuff because I work as a programmer. I did this from scratch initially. As such the page was unique and became Realms Away V1. It had many species, daily activities, very heavy neopets influence. But it also had many issues such as proper Masterlist management, currency management and many many tiny things. This is why, when learning about Lorekeeper, I decided to move to it and start Realms Away V2 from scratch. This solved many default tasks I previously had painstakingly tried to build by myself, and opened new possibilities. I was stoked. RA V2 is what you are on right now, and it is runnin since July 2023.

Motivation

Initially i was very motivated to work on stuff, and sometimes I still am especially when it comes to new code to do, and new thoughts I want to add. I tend to be the type that can't stick to one thing forever and likes to jump between many different species and designs as I love variety. As such making something to house all my favorite species and designs seemed like a fun idea at first. I have always loved designing adopts, and giving them all a home without excluding any seemed like the way to go. I like to see people play, engage and enjoy their characters on here. Overall, I think it was a cool project and I don't regret that I started it even now.


My Grievances

I have finally decided to write this up because I find myself bouncing back to these every now and then, and I really wish I would not. I also want to make clear that no single or specific person or communities are to blame for any of these. Rather, it is just things that were not meant to be, and time changing the way I see my older ideas.

Feeling alone

While I have had a couple good mods over the course of 7 years, overall it has always been incredibly hard to find them. Through most of the time I worked on group stuff, I worked on almost everything by myself: code, assets, lore, adopts, approvals, general management. Im in a fortunate position now where I have a small group of people that really help out with approvals, general site help and the discord, bless you all. But I still do a lot, all of it beside my day job. And I still lack one thing that I have always been missing: a small, active group of friends that works together to create something and bounce ideas, rather than me doing all the event/lore/thinking work alone. Over the past months, observing other groups, I have found myself craving this more and more, losing the drive to really do stuff for Realms because I want to - where I just end up forcing it because it is planned, and I tend to stick to my plans.

Too much going on

As much as I love the idea of giving all sorts of designs I make a "home" on Realms Away, I find myself not enjoying it at all times. If i look at groups i want to join as a member, it tends to be focused on a single species (or their sister species at most), Theming something around one species only seems much more coherent, fun and less overwhelming to me. With bimonthly events, some species just wait forever to get their time to shine! When trying to include everything, I already feel bad because it's not quite everything I do. For example, some of my personal concepts will never make it here because they do not fit. This is inconsistent, and my brain hates inconsistencies. I feel like i would enjoy a smaller focus ARPG a lot more, and I'd like to work on it, but at the same time RA holds me back from doing so.

Traits that are overarching are so difficult to do for this many species as well. I can't trait cool stuff like wings because it doesn't make sense for angels or demons or dragons, for example. While i generally like what we have (I spent a long time thinking about it after all), it's just another layer of "god I wish it wasn't so complicated". Of course, this is also a huge load on mods and GA who have to understand all these different species and their silly little limits. This leads to more inconsistencies.

Species regrets

Gleamstic unfortunatly are something that I would never have created anymore today, and a species I don't see myself ever using again. As you can imagine, it's not fun to keep something up that I have no love for anymore because by design, they are a bad species to me right now. Yet the things I don't like about them is not something I think is fixable or worth fixing 7 years later, since it concerns one of their main design points. I also wish I did a bit more with beastling, they are quite basic, even if I definitely want a lil guy species of my own still. And as much as i love Arma Caeli myself, I know they are difficult to use for most, and as such I have to question if it's worth having them around. I wanted the ARPG to have ways to enter without CS labels through generic species, but I wonder if they just add uneccessary bloat and if it could be handled in a better way. 

Is there any good solution?

This is honestly difficult and the reason I am publishing this in the first place. I genuinely feel stuck, both with RA as is and my feelings towards it. I keep thinking this is fine, but days later I feel all these grievances so strongly again. This could be related to my mental state in general (I am trying to find help on this front, but I don't forsee an easy fix). For this reason, I don't want to jump to fast actions or a badly executed shutdown of RA  - but at the same time, I can't just keep at it without a course of action that might spell betterment.

On one hand, the idea of a dedicated thing for only one or two species is exciting to me and I can feel that I'd love to plan and set it up.

On the other, if I end up doing it all alone again who's to say it won't eventually get stuck in the same spot as RA? Who's to say I will keep enjoying it? Who's to say it will be worth giving up RA for? And that I won't miss RA?

I post this in hopes that maybe anyone has any idea on what I could do in this situation, preferably something that doesn't destroy one thing completely in favor of a risky new thing, but I also know I won't be able to keep things up forever as is. And i really want to keep doing things that you can enjoy. Unfortunately, to do this, I must enjoy it consistently myself.

If anyone has thoughts on this, please feel free to DM me on discord. I would really appreciate it.

Thank you for reading my novel. /vent over.

 


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Celest Avatar
As the fellow owner of a multispecies world I've been running for years, you have all my sympathies. This shit is hard! Fun and rewarding, for sure, but also hard as fuck! If it helps at all, here's my thoughts: Feeling alone: The fact of the matter, with nearly every single species world, is that no one will care about your project more than you. You're the origin of the project, and your community feeds off your passion. If you look specifically for writing or event mods, you might get some bites. It's worth a shot! Like, if I didn't have my hands full with my little guys, I would have been interested. There's lots of fun seeds of lore here! Personally, I find a lot of community hanging out with other CS owners, on top of the couple of solid PAs I have. So that could help! Too Much: Personally, one of the things i REALLY like about RA is that it has so many species. It's really easy for me to port over characters I already love and develop them in your world. There arent many places i can do that! That is very much a feature for me. That said, when i first joined, I never really expected every species to get an equal level of love, particularly the generics! it makes sense to have given them a flashy launch, but i didnt think all the species were gonna all get special events equally forever. it might help you to pick one species to be your flagship species (existing or new), and formulate a singular plotline around them? and then if users wanna throw in their little guys from the other species, they can. and if you feel inspired to give one of the other species a cameo or lore feature in said plotline, that's still an option to you. RA has a whole interdimensional world, so there's lots of leeway. all that said, i DEFINITELY think that you should stop if its not fun for you! like, take care fo yourself, the point of hobbies is that theyre fun. do what makes you happy. i just hope these thoughts helped! if you wanna talk more at all, feel free to dm me, i was way too intimidated to dm you myself :'3

2024-10-01 01:35:32

Cylunny Avatar
Cylunny Staff Member
Thank you Celest! It really is a struggle (insert handshake emoji here). I have been the main drive of anything I do for 7 years and I generally do ok with it but it's been a struggle recently :C I thought I love the idea of the generic species but it might not be it for me after all. Ideas/alternatives are cooking though! And I am mostly looking at ways that still make the generic species chars usable, but without guarantee that there can still be made more....Well, its all really rough ideas for now and I intend to try them in full locally before having people look at it and coming to a decision on how to move on!

2024-10-01 06:12:50

EliMoon Avatar
EliMoon Staff Member
On the too much clutter front. Might I suggest sub domains? So realms-away/lopilands would lead to the site/world where lopilu and the things they directly interact with are. Then realms-away/eden would be the site dedicated to angels, demons, humans caught between ect. Obviously anyone is still welcome to write their own outside lore for theirown purposes but maybe having a few subdomains so its not all on one might help. On the new world/idea front. I am always willing to bounce around ideas, draw maps, help design characters, schools, heirarchies, ect. You name it, I love creating (im just not super at coding).

2024-09-30 22:44:12

Cylunny Avatar
Cylunny Staff Member
I have considered something like this before but I still believe it miiiight be a tad confusing! Of course it would also still need major reworks to smth like shops, and then I wouldn't quite know how to properly seperate everything- and where the separation would end. Will be putting it on my mental idea list though, for sure! ;U; Maps sound great too honestly, when trying to get the realm issue a bit more..streamlined ahaha

2024-10-01 06:07:59

renfief Avatar
i don't have any good suggestions but i absolutely support whatever you end up doing! realms away has brought me so much enjoyment, even if i've only been able to do the dailies for the last while, and i'll always appreciate the joy i've gotten from it. but i also totally understand falling out of love with projects, and i can imagine it'd be heartbreaking for it to happen to something you've poured so much time and effort into all i can guess is if it doesn't bring you any joy it may only burn you out, but whether you want to keep with it and try to find/foster that group of brainstorming friends, or pause it, or move on i wish you the absolute best of luck & hope you find your passion again ^^

2024-09-30 21:38:19

Cylunny Avatar
Cylunny Staff Member
thanks a lot ,, Fortunately people responded to this so I could open a lil brainstorm group. I want to try out some changes in a small circle and then we may have a better spot to decide if its feasible to get on here for the future ! All of that would be a long time in the making though, must be extra sure cx

2024-10-01 06:05:57

pan-da-panda Avatar
no matter what you decide or do for the species/rleames i’ll support it…

2024-09-30 20:33:30

Cylunny Avatar
Cylunny Staff Member
thank you! we are definitely going to keep mulling over the options without destroying everything that happened so far xD

2024-10-01 06:04:37

AcuteExposure Avatar
I don't have any easy answers, but I will say that I love beastlings to bits! They're by far my favorite of the RA species, and wherever you go in the future, I support your efforts. I wish you nothing but the best!

2024-09-30 20:07:56

Cylunny Avatar
Cylunny Staff Member
thanks a lot! o7 I for sure don't want to carelessly act on anything, and I have been lucky to get brainstorming with a group of mods and members, laying out options and possibly testing them with just us before ever deciding on a changed course cx

2024-10-01 06:02:30

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